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	<title>Comments on: Mike Baron&#8217;s view on conservative persecution in comics</title>
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		<title>By: guttertalk</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-44515</link>
		<dc:creator>guttertalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 06:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m generally fine with differing opinions, but when you call people names and contribute absolutely nothing of value, I will delete your comment and ban you. And, cerebro, you have not anything worthwhile to say. 

Take your hate and pettiness where it is welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m generally fine with differing opinions, but when you call people names and contribute absolutely nothing of value, I will delete your comment and ban you. And, cerebro, you have not anything worthwhile to say. </p>
<p>Take your hate and pettiness where it is welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: guttertalk</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-43592</link>
		<dc:creator>guttertalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, cerebro, you&#039;re gloating that Obama&#039;s poll numbers are in the mid and upper 50s? 

I&#039;m just going to let your illiterate rant speak for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, cerebro, you&#8217;re gloating that Obama&#8217;s poll numbers are in the mid and upper 50s? </p>
<p>I&#8217;m just going to let your illiterate rant speak for itself.</p>
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		<title>By: cerebro</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-43428</link>
		<dc:creator>cerebro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 14:56:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how popular is your president now comrade?

polls have him sinking faster than the titanic. how smooth was this business tactic?  spiderman sales up or down?   there&#039;s a difference between the conservitive demacrats of the sixties and loons of today.  obama is messing with capitalism! the core of what makes this country work ! and why people come here and not anyplace else!  and i dont think peter parker nor stan nor diko nor romita or whoever is that stupid to support such a radical. maybe i&#039;m wrong.
i would hope after this 4 years of hell we&#039;re going through and obama makes carter look like reagan, that something is written in spiderman to explain his misplaced enthusiasm for him. ( republicans not conservitive enough to vote for, white guilt over slavery, to much opra, kool aid or whatever ) and maybe we can forgive him and take the character seriously again.

ps just got back from chicago comiccon.  strange no marvel panel to voice opinions at.  all hiding in liberal la la land california?    ha ha   everyone liked my &quot; obama apollogy tour 2009 t-shirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how popular is your president now comrade?</p>
<p>polls have him sinking faster than the titanic. how smooth was this business tactic?  spiderman sales up or down?   there&#8217;s a difference between the conservitive demacrats of the sixties and loons of today.  obama is messing with capitalism! the core of what makes this country work ! and why people come here and not anyplace else!  and i dont think peter parker nor stan nor diko nor romita or whoever is that stupid to support such a radical. maybe i&#8217;m wrong.<br />
i would hope after this 4 years of hell we&#8217;re going through and obama makes carter look like reagan, that something is written in spiderman to explain his misplaced enthusiasm for him. ( republicans not conservitive enough to vote for, white guilt over slavery, to much opra, kool aid or whatever ) and maybe we can forgive him and take the character seriously again.</p>
<p>ps just got back from chicago comiccon.  strange no marvel panel to voice opinions at.  all hiding in liberal la la land california?    ha ha   everyone liked my &#8221; obama apollogy tour 2009 t-shirt.</p>
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		<title>By: guttertalk</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-41299</link>
		<dc:creator>guttertalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 14:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cerebro, that Obama issue was hardly an endorsement of liberal policies. It&#039;s part of a tradition in comics to pull popular presidents into their stories. 

Even though Ditko is an Ayn Rand freak, Spider-Man/Peter Parker is very much born of a liberal time and the &quot;New Frontier&quot; ideals, of Kennedy&#039;s challenge to do what we can do for our country. Yet, Spider-Man is a good metaphoric character because people can different things in him--liberal or conservative, young or old. 

I&#039;m sorry to see that your political anger is such that you wish people to lose their jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cerebro, that Obama issue was hardly an endorsement of liberal policies. It&#8217;s part of a tradition in comics to pull popular presidents into their stories. </p>
<p>Even though Ditko is an Ayn Rand freak, Spider-Man/Peter Parker is very much born of a liberal time and the &#8220;New Frontier&#8221; ideals, of Kennedy&#8217;s challenge to do what we can do for our country. Yet, Spider-Man is a good metaphoric character because people can different things in him&#8211;liberal or conservative, young or old. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to see that your political anger is such that you wish people to lose their jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: cerebro</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-41295</link>
		<dc:creator>cerebro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for bringing spiderman collecting to a screeching hault for me.  how nice of you to decide spiderman is a dunderhead liberal who supports left wing loony presidents.  hope you lose your job to comrade</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for bringing spiderman collecting to a screeching hault for me.  how nice of you to decide spiderman is a dunderhead liberal who supports left wing loony presidents.  hope you lose your job to comrade</p>
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		<title>By: gnome</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-38504</link>
		<dc:creator>gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that sounds really weird you know. they are considered almost mainstream (almost almost really) for the comic loving crowds here. btw, there&#039;s a lovely comics festival going on right now, though apparently lacking a site...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that sounds really weird you know. they are considered almost mainstream (almost almost really) for the comic loving crowds here. btw, there&#8217;s a lovely comics festival going on right now, though apparently lacking a site&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: guttertalk</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-38476</link>
		<dc:creator>guttertalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Baron and Rude&#039;s Nexus was a great book, and its content and theme wasn&#039;t one I would consider fascist. But people do change in 20 years.

Superhero comics really haven&#039;t grown up--graphic violence, bigger breasts, sales-driven deaths dominate the genre. Still, I have a love for the genre and think it is capable of so much more. 

As for non-American comics, I would love to read some Alberto Brecchia and  Sergio Toppi comics, but they are hard to find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Baron and Rude&#8217;s Nexus was a great book, and its content and theme wasn&#8217;t one I would consider fascist. But people do change in 20 years.</p>
<p>Superhero comics really haven&#8217;t grown up&#8211;graphic violence, bigger breasts, sales-driven deaths dominate the genre. Still, I have a love for the genre and think it is capable of so much more. </p>
<p>As for non-American comics, I would love to read some Alberto Brecchia and  Sergio Toppi comics, but they are hard to find.</p>
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		<title>By: gnome</title>
		<link>http://fromthegutter.org/?p=1196&#038;cpage=1#comment-38443</link>
		<dc:creator>gnome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 17:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truly interesting piece my friend, and one most enlightening on why american superhero comics are what they are, and why i generally tend to avoid them, this baron character, on the other hand, would surely be characterized as as a fascist by the huge majority of comic readers in europe. reizer, edika, cosginy will definitely remain the firm favorites it seems, and for good reason. a rotten person, you see, cannot produce art. only merchandise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truly interesting piece my friend, and one most enlightening on why american superhero comics are what they are, and why i generally tend to avoid them, this baron character, on the other hand, would surely be characterized as as a fascist by the huge majority of comic readers in europe. reizer, edika, cosginy will definitely remain the firm favorites it seems, and for good reason. a rotten person, you see, cannot produce art. only merchandise.</p>
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